[Clug-tech] kde3 and kde4

[Shawn]

The KDE 3 issue is the same thing I posted about yesterday on the 
CLUG-Talk list.  The language pack update doesn't like us Canadian 
English speakers for some reason.. :)

Rolling back the language pack is the only fix I've seen so far that 
works reliably.  (setting the LANG variable does too, but that's kinda 
hack-y...)

Shawn

Gustin Johnson wrote:
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> It seems that kde is currently hooped on my laptop (it crashes and 
> returns to the kdm login screen) but kde4 seems to load just fine.  The 
> upside is that I have been using kde4 solely for the last couple of days.
> 
> I do not want to suggest that kde4 was a waste of time or that there was 
> not a lot of impressive work done, but I miss my kde 3.5x.   Little 
> things like the size of the task bar (the kicker replacement) is too big 
> (and not resizable) and and no F2 shortcut.  Widget resizing is also 
> annoying.  I expect these to be ironed out, but it all served to remind 
> me how high the bar has been set by kde 3.x.
> 
> Also, the interaction with the proprietary nvidia drivers seems buggy, 
> but this is likely not a kde problem.
> 
> I like some of the new kde4 specific apps (krdc and gwenview in particular).
> 
> I do have one question.  Why are modern GUIs driven to produce larger 
> and more wasteful interfaces?  The title bars, task bars, application 
> menu bars, all seem to be getting larger, wasting more and more screen 
> real estate.  Shouldn't we be getting more efficient with our space?  
> Coupled with the fact that the increase in size is met with a decrease 
> in interactive features (ie. buttons and displays).  In other words, why 
> are we taking up more space to do and convey less?  I am mainly thinking 
> of Office 2007, Vista, and KDE4 here.  This massive task bar conveys 
> less info than the one I had in KDE 3, and yet the latter was ~ 1/3 the 
> size.   How big does the task bar and the title bar really need to be?
> 
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