[clug-talk] kde won't start

Gustin Johnson gustin at meganerd.ca
Tue Feb 8 12:46:54 PST 2011


On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mel Walters <melwalters at telus.net> wrote:
> Hi Robin,
>
> Which installer did you use? What was your impression of the installers?
> I think the version X.0 's tend to be the most "fun filled" :)

I am a huge fan of the netinstall.  It has been my go to installer for
more than 10 years.
>
> I want to do an install soon, but have to look at some hardware issues
> first. As soon as I can acquire
> some spare time. From the sound of things, I think acing my data backup will
> lead to a more auspicious
> adventure.
>
> Mel
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Richard Carter <carter.r.a.l at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for all the help.  Last night I took the bit in my teeth and did a
>> fresh install of debian 6.0.0 amd6.  KDE now starts ok but I still have some
>> fine tuning to do.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Rick Johnson <rick.j.79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> and... according to the specs on that mobo, you have a Radeon HD 4250
>>> which should work just fine with the xorg-radeon driver. Its included with
>>> Debian so there's no need to mess with the proprietary stuff.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Rick Johnson <rick.j.79 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, thats weird. startx should be there as long as xorg is installed.
>>>> Anyways, lets go with the original problem... $DISPLAY is an environment
>>>> variable which you should not need to deal with unless the upgrade mussed up
>>>> some of the config somewhere. Try this: log in as your normal user and 'mv
>>>> ~/.xinitrc ~/.xinitrc.old' and 'mv ~/.xsession  ~/.xsession.old'. This will
>>>> get these files out of the way for the time being (and back them up if case
>>>> we need to put them back) and hopefully, kde can now start and create new
>>>> versions of them. Kaboom is a migration wizard to go from kde3 to kde4 and i
>>>> suspect it may have caused the problem.
>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Richard Carter <carter.r.a.l at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the tips.  I have tried "startx" but got "command not
>>>>> found".  The version of debian testing I'm using is amd64.  I believe the
>>>>> video card is embodied in the motherboard; Gigabyte GA880-GM-UD2H.
>>>>> Robin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Rick Johnson <rick.j.79 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and btw, i also am using testing and ran a dist-upgrade last night.
>>>>>> Xorg was upgraded so i had to re-do the nvidia drivers. very likely this is
>>>>>> your problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Rick Johnson <rick.j.79 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Btw, i see you're running a 64-bit processor but are you also running
>>>>>>> 64-bit Debian? Here's some instructions for building the nvidia driver:
>>>>>>> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers If i remember right, there's
>>>>>>> some differences with the 64-bit procedure which you'll have to google if
>>>>>>> thats what you need.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Rick Johnson <rick.j.79 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The kernel headers are required to re-compile the kernel module but
>>>>>>>> but in the upgrade, only the source packages are upgraded. you still need to
>>>>>>>> go through the process of building the module.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Joseph Hume <joseph at f1forhelp.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On my daughters Kubuntu 10.10 laptop if there is a kernel update I
>>>>>>>>> just need to install the matching kernel headers to allow the nvidia video
>>>>>>>>> driver to properly install before I reboot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/7/2011 9:35 AM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> did you try 'startx'? And btw, upgrades or dist-upgrades should be
>>>>>>>>> done without kde running (or gnome etc.). '/etc/init.d/kdm stop', log in as
>>>>>>>>> root and then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Otherwise you are
>>>>>>>>> going to upgrade packages that are running at the time and you can often
>>>>>>>>> break things this way. Also, if you are using a ATI or nvidia card with
>>>>>>>>> proprietary drivers, you will need to re-install the driver if X or the
>>>>>>>>> kernel is upgraded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Richard Carter
>>>>>>>>> <carter.r.a.l at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>>>> I have been running debian 6.0 testing on a desktop with an amd64
>>>>>>>>>> processor.  Before shutting down last night I used synaptic to check for and
>>>>>>>>>> install upgrades: many were installed.
>>>>>>>>>> This morning kde won't start.  When I boot the system goes into
>>>>>>>>>> what I interpret as "terminal mode".  When I type in "startkde" as user I
>>>>>>>>>> get "DISPLAY is not set or cannot to the X server".  When I type "startkde"
>>>>>>>>>> as su I get:
>>>>>>>>>> ------ Kaboom Settings Dump------
>>>>>>>>>>   kdehome - "/root/.kde" - exists? YES
>>>>>>>>>>   kde4 - "/root/kde4" - exists? NO
>>>>>>>>>>   kdebackup - "/root/kde3-backup" exists? NO
>>>>>>>>>>   kdestamp = "/root/.local/kaboom" exists? NO
>>>>>>>>>>   kaboom log - "/root/.kaboom.log"
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> kaboom cannot connect to X server
>>>>>>>>>> I tried using apt-get to install kde but was told the newest
>>>>>>>>>> version was all ready installed.
>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately I already have a recent backup.  I have downloaded
>>>>>>>>>> debian 6.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso and I'm considering re-installing.  Does
>>>>>>>>>> anyone have a better idea?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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