[clug-talk] Did shaw shut down external ports?

sgrover sgrover at open2space.com
Thu Jun 14 17:27:38 PDT 2007


Soooo...

Connecting your home email client to your business email server is now 
out of the question?  (for sending).

One day, Shaw will actually THINK about what they are doing and realize 
it just ain't gonna work.. :)

I have a SOHO connection, so the moment they pull this for my line is 
the moment I move my business elsewhere.  But even then, I still need to 
relay my outbound mail through Shaw's mail servers - otherwise my server 
is erroneously tagged as a "spamming server" by some of the RBLs (who 
are blocking Shaw's IPs with a class C subnet, even though my IP uses an 
abnormal subnet (.246 I think...)

And the only reason they can be doing this is
a) To help prevent outgoing spam.  (admirable intent, but...)
b) control of email services.  Other big ISPs are no longer guaranteeing 
  mail delivery unless the user signs up for a "premium" service.  I 
suspect Shaw is gearing up to do something similar.

My thoughts.

Shawn


Kin Wong wrote:
> Just got a polite email this morning from Shaw indicating that we need to change our modems and that there has been a network policy change (i.e. if you are using port 25 for outgoing mail and it is not through Shaw's server, then you are sol).  Somebody must be thinking it is only one port, what's the big deal.  I think the date on the memo for for the 15 of next month, not that anyone has notice them playing with port 25 recently.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Anderson" <kanderson at digital-adrenaline.com>
> To: clug-talk at clug.ca, nick at customdesigns.ca
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:07:26 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver
> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Did shaw shut down external ports?
> 
> Outbound works too, if you set up SHAW as a smarthost.
> 
> Kev.
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Wiltshire [mailto:nick at customdesigns.ca] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:08 PM
> To: clug-talk at clug.ca
> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Did shaw shut down external ports?
> 
> I think it's only outbound. When I moved last month I was unable to send 
> mail until my static IP was set up.
> 
> On Tuesday 12 June 2007 11:55, Jesse Kline wrote:
>> Seeing as I got both these e-mails, they havn't cut port 25 yet.
>>
>> Jesse
>>
>>> I know for sure they are working on cutting port 25 for residential 
>>> customers.
>>> It doesn't affect SOHO users though.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 12 June 2007 11:50, Robert Campbell wrote:
>>>> I have had to re-subscribe to this list using my gmail account so 
>>>> that I could ask this question..... Has shaw shut down access to 
>>>> internal ports (or is it just me?).
>>>>
>>>> I haven't rebooted my firewall (yet), but email is bouncing and I 
>>>> can't ssh into my server from an external host.
>>>>
>>>> So, is it just me, or is everybody experiencing this process?
>>>>
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