[clug-talk] nasty problem

Robert Lewko lewkor at gmail.com
Wed May 17 20:39:55 PDT 2006

This application has taken some time to develop and last friday when i was
on his site, actually his truck where the application runs, the application
was able to recover from lack of satellite signal.  The typical period where
the satellite is out of range is about 10 minutes.

What is happening this afternoon is that the signal meter on the modem is
showing strong signal and there is no data getting back.  Like I said before
the packets are getting to the server but not being returned to the client.

Usually when I lose packets there may be one or two per minute, but the
client side of this application is designed that the client is in control of
the communication and it will retransmit until it receives the ack from the
server.  Actually I got the design from Stevens "Unix Network Programming"
the chapter that discusses advanced UDP.

So to sum up I think that something upstream is blocking the packets on the
return trip.  Again this is the first time that I have seen the network act
like this for an extended period of time.  My guess is that some admin set
something somewhere so that these packets are getting lost. I just don't
know what to do in this case.

I repeat.  My code is working when the packets get through.

On 5/17/06, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 May 2006 19:02, Robert Lewko wrote:
> > I am using UDP because the client is using a satellite modem.  The
> server
> > uses UDP port 9608.  When the server gets a packet it just gets the
> source
> > address and returns the response packet to the sender.  Like I said I
> have
> > had no problem with that port both while I have been developing the code
> > and for the last week until this afternoon.
> as you know, udp has no guarantee of delivery (or ordering for that
> matter).
> so if there are any network issues whatsoever you can lose udp packets
> pretty
> easily; tcp packets will resend when they aren't ack'd. if you need
> guarantees with udp you usually end up setting up some sort of
> ack-on-failure
> (as opposed to tcp's ack on success which suppresses a resend). welcome to
> udp =)
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