[clug-talk] Random computer crashing
mbgb14 at gmail.com
Tue May 9 11:40:36 PDT 2006
I would do this, but I don't think its gonna work. Because this is a
new computer, and the other computers in the house are very old, this
is gonna be the one with the most oomph. So, anything else is gonna
die regardless because there's not enough power. Oh, and I'm not sure
how to duplicate the problem. Like I said, its very random. Like, when
I wiped the drive with QT it worked just fine - now the rip fails
like, 3/4 the way through. Very odd .... I mean, if it *was* a PSU
problem, why would wiping the drive with QT fix it?
On 5/9/06, Dave Watkins - CLUG <President at clug.ca> wrote:
> As I suggested previously, just place another working box beside the flakey
> one and use the power supply from the good one to power the bad one. Most
> PSU cables will reach and it's a quick way to test without pulling the
> PSU's. Pulling them takes about 5 minutes if the cables don't reach.
> There are PSU testers out there but many do not actually place a load on the
> supply, simply check for the presence of power on the line. I usually just
> hang a new PS off the box and test before I pull the suspect one.
> FYI, all the systems I sell come with a minimum 400W power supply. While
> they are a bit more expensive initially they are certainly more reliable in
> the long run. I've had customer systems with a multitude of strange problems
> ranging from spontaneous reboots, reboot on mouse click to random failure to
> write to CD that were resolved with a new PS.
> Dave Watkins
> Calgary Linux Users Group
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitchell Brown [mailto:mbgb14 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 PM
> To: CLUG General
> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Random computer crashing
> Yup I'm suspecting power problems too now. I've been running a CPU stress
> test for hours now, and the memory test went all night, no problems. I might
> try another PSU.
> It's an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ I think. It cost about $2000 if I recall
> correctly. It has an ATI All in Wonder ($400) vid card.
> Hmm... Can you test a powersupply? Or just replace it?
> On 5/9/06, Hendrik Schaink <hschaink at infovisi.com > wrote:
> Ripping video is a high-CPU-demand task. Considering that you
> found any faulty memory nor hard drive, there's IMHO only two
> left: either the CPU overheats and goes into power-down mode (Intel
> only; AMD CPUs in the past tended to burn themselves up) _OR_ the
> to the CPU is insufficient on a "long-term" power-hungry task.
> Either of
> these scenario could create weird (dying) sounds over the speakers.
> You are saying that your box was bought as a high-end box -- does
> mean that the PowerSupply is rated at least 350W? IMO a PSU of 300W
> a high-end CPU _and_ a high-end video card _and_ a high-end sound
> is a recipe for failure. If my memory serves me well, it was about 2
> years ago that my own supplier started bringing in cases with 350W
> to provide adequate power to power-hungry components. Be really
> with _generic_ PSUs: they are produced with a low price-point in
> reliable power and life span are sacrificed to achieve that price
> Be sure to check the cooling fins of the CPU fan -- they do tend to
> clogged up with dust -- blow them out with forced air.
> All in all, my money is on the lack of power -- use it for what it's
> worth to you.
> Hendrik Schaink
> Mitchell Brown wrote:
> > It has one hard drive, a CDRW/DVD-ROM drive, and a DVD-RW drive.
> > And one or two fans. Total. That's it. No extra peripherals.
> > On 5/9/06, *Mark Carlson* <carlsonmark at gmail.com
> > <mailto:carlsonmark at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > On 5/9/06, Kin Wong < kwong at csa-pdk.com
> <mailto:kwong at csa-pdk.com>>
> > wrote:
> > > Mitchell Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay, the full 5-stage CHKDSK just finished. Found 0
> problems. Argh.
> > > > I could try reformatting the drive and doing a NTFS Full
> > time -
> > > > but I'd probably just be wasting my time.
> > > > If it is faulty memory or a PSU, why would reformatting
> > partition
> > > > with Linux make a difference to the Windows installer O_o
> > > >
> > > > I'm at a loss here. This is very frustrating for me and my
> mom wants
> > > > this video ripped asap.
> > > >
> > > > What would you guys do in my situation?
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