[clug-talk] Enterprise Linux?

Travis Rousseau unleashed at unleashedgamers.com
Thu Jan 20 23:28:03 PST 2005


Well I like how I can be really upto date with a few simple commands and 
I can select if its stable, unstable or whatever rather than slackware's 
kina "just stable". other than that I like slackware best.

I find the BSD's best for Firewalls, and old computers.

Travis R.

Michael Gale wrote:
> 
> Gentoo ... I still prefer Slackware, my order would be:
> 
> 1. Slackware
> 2. Debian
> 3. Open/Free BSD
> 
> I doubt that the Slackware community would let it slip away.
> 
> Michael.
> 
> Travis Rousseau wrote:
> 
>> Yes this is a Major thing! If this would have been asked before he got 
>> sick i would have said just Slackware but now I say Debian first then 
>> Slackware second he does have people to carry the distros if something 
>> does happen to him _But_ I don't know if they would just support it 
>> for a few years and wonder of or if they would take command and they 
>> will take his place. Because of this I have switched my #2 server to 
>> Debian (#1 runs RHEL3 :( ) from Slackware. But Slackware is still in 
>> my top 3 favorite Distros 1.Gentoo 2.Debian 3.Slackware
>>
>> I will recommend Gentoo once 
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0019.txt makes enough progress 
>> (Doesn't look like it though :( )
>>
>> Travis R.
>>
>>> An honest question - since I can't profess to be an expert on 
>>> Slackware:  how comfortable are you (and other Slackware experts) 
>>> with the distros' survivability, if something should happen to its 
>>> chief maintainer? From what I had read, there was a recent rather 
>>> serious health scare (fortunately seems ok now) - so this issue can 
>>> become very real in a hurry ...
>>>
>>> I'm asking the question, since for an enterprise situation without 
>>> considerable inhouse expertise, you'd really hate to be stuck with a 
>>> strategic tool to your infrastructure, if that tool would seriously 
>>> suffer from the absence of a single individual. Of course, if you 
>>> have significant inhouse expertise, the hop to a different distro 
>>> isn't as dramatic as hopping between operating systems or even 
>>> hopping between various flavours of Unix.
>>>
>>> ...Niels
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Gale wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>>     I agree with Travis, Debian or Slackware make a enterprise 
>>>> distro. I my self am a big Slackware fan.
>>>>
>>>> Michael.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Travis Rousseau wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok sorry but the DVD Novell sent me was a dud :( just won't work!
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend Debian woody or Slackware for enterprise "like" 
>>>>> situations or where you need low maintenance equipment and want 
>>>>> stability but dont need really good support (In my opinion google 
>>>>> can provide some of the best support just by googling the errors)
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Suse 9.2 and the like for more desktop situations where 
>>>>> stability is not as critical (In my opinion)
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis R.
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis Rousseau wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well for Redhat I have one RHEL3 server and a few RH9 and FC3 
>>>>>> computers.  From them there is a few main differences the first is 
>>>>>> support for RHEL Redhat provides support right to you. For FC3 you 
>>>>>> find what support you can (You'll find it for everything!). The 
>>>>>> second main difference is your not using release packages (or at 
>>>>>> least me) with RHEL3 your using old packages with security fixes 
>>>>>> back ported to older "Known to be fully stable". Now with fedora 
>>>>>> core you get the packages at release time and they have undergone 
>>>>>> little if any testing so you do not know how well it will react in 
>>>>>> the situation it is put in and you must worry about package 
>>>>>> discrepancys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will install a Suse Enterprise server 9 from novell right now 
>>>>>> and report back the diffrences for suse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Travis R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shawn wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a contact who is considering an enterprise Linux solution, 
>>>>>>> but I don't think he really needs one.  Before I give him my 
>>>>>>> "formal" opinion, I thought I'd ask what the difference is 
>>>>>>> between a regular desktop version and the enterprise version of 
>>>>>>> Linux. (say Suse Pro vs Suse Enterprise)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I understand things (and freely admit I could be wrong), there 
>>>>>>> is no difference other than the bundled support contract with the 
>>>>>>> Enterprise edition.  Is this correct?  Or are there other 
>>>>>>> differences in terms of available packages or the "quality" of 
>>>>>>> the packages?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any input.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>>>
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